send the arms and legs flying around their joints, the limits of the joints.etc. I want to duplicate his work in pure C++, no cleo bull-poop. Sadly madleg has not been active for 3 months or so, asking him for the source code is a long shot. So madleg's ragdoll mod looks good, it makes SA more like IV, but it does not work for everyone and we don't have the source to fix it.